Showing posts with label Discussion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Discussion. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Caught in the Grey

     So given the tone that's been set for this election season it's easy to point out that people love to polarize things. We don't like topics to be ...fuzzy. Everything makes so much more sense and becomes so much simpler when we lay it all out in obvious black and white terms. Unfortunately life simply isn't that cut and dry and more often than we'd like we find ourselves dealing with topics that seem devoid of clear absolutes. Luckily we have a tried and true tactic for dealing with these situations, pretend!

     Yes, when things get difficult or complicated many of us find that the best thing to do is just take the fuzzy edges and curved lines and force them into straight, organized, neat little categories. Instead of acknowledging the complex nature of the issue we simply cover our ears and sing la la la until the problem goes away. Of course the problems never really go away but if we keep singing that tune long enough and loud enough we'll gather a whole choir together and we can all sing together making it that much harder to hear anyone else.



     Unfortunately we Christians are just as guilty of this as anyone. Frankly it's easy to understand why, complex topics are difficult to deal with. There are many things that God has laid out neatly and obviously in the Bible. Murder, theft, lying, disobedience, selfishness, homosexuality, etc. The list goes on and on. However, there are a great many things that are either not as clear cut or simply not covered at all.

     So instead of taking the time to know and understand what the Bible actually says on these topics and stopping there, we take our own opinions and cultural norms and enforce them as law. We allow for no wiggle room, no fuzzy edges, and no grace. We can see this clearly by looking back at past standard of appearance. I'm sure you've all heard stories from back in the day when men were constantly checked for hair length and women who wore anything but dresses and skirts were covered in disapproving stares.

     The problem with that kind of thing is of course, who gets to set the standard? The law to ancient Israel does say a thing or two about women not wearing men's clothing and vice versa (Deuteronomy 22:5) but this was in a culture where everyone wore what we might consider a dress by modern reckoning. The point isn't that a girl can't wear pants or that kilts are an abomination, ultimately pants are not considered men's only anymore so a woman wearing them is just wearing women's pants.

     Now I'm not going to run down a list of fuzzy topics but I'm sure you can think of a few. What we need to remember is that truth -real truth- begins and ends with the Word of God. If the Bible doesn't clearly lay it out in no uncertain terms than be willing to give a little. If it isn't illegal, immoral, indecent, or clearly sinful, then give people the benefit of the doubt and maybe talk to them about before running them down.


     The Black and the White are comfortable categories because we don't have to think. We are not called to mindlessness though, we are called to be wise and loving. We are called to be child like not child-ish. Love covers a multitude of sins (1 Peter 4:8) and humility kills a million arguments. We are none of us perfect so give the people around you a little latitude and get comfortable with the fuzzy, with the unclear, and with the imprecise. There are many things to stand firmly on to be sure, but lets be sure we're defending God's standard and not our own.

Wednesday, August 31, 2016

The Point of Debate

We spend quite a lot of time arguing these days.  We may call it debate but really it's arguing and I'm not even saying that is necessarily a bad thing but if we're going to spend so much time doing something shouldn't we be doing it properly?

The first thing we need to remember is that our primary motivation is not to win the argument, nor is it to be right and recognized as such, nor is it to convince anyone of anything.  The point of every Biblical discussion is to accurately inform others about the Word of God.

When you discuss things with people, do you feel that passion rise?  Do you feel your blood stir as the debate intensifies and do you get real involved in the back and forth?  Now ask yourself, why?  Why in this instance is very important because one is reason can be proof of faith and evidence of a firmly held belief, another reason is just pride.  When you get frustrated with someone who doesn't agree with you (which, honestly, we all do) is it because that poor soul doesn't or can't grasp the truths of scripture or is because you want them to acknowledge that you are right?  That's a terrible reason to argue.

"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing."
(1 Corinthians 13:1-3)


"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."
(Matthew 10:16)

We need to remember that in the heat of debate we cannot let go of love.  Again, since our purpose is not to be right nor to convince, we have failed if we argue without love.  If your 'opponent' leaves the debate surly and upset it better be because his supporting arguments were subverted and because he has been forced to rethink his assumptions and not because you cruelly whipped him with the truth.  Let the truth speak for itself and take your ego out of the equation.  Let your care for the other person show through the discussion, often that will have a far greater impact than any well constructed argument.



Another important point is more WHAT we are debating rather than HOW.  As Christians we see the world for what it is, a broken sin-filled place.  As such we see the evils around us, we see how reality and culture contradict the Word and will of God.  Surrounded by this mass of sin we strike out at the things we see: homosexuality and its acceptance by the world, abortion, adultery, immorality, the breakdown of the family, the rejection of God, etc.  I'm not saying that these are not things to stand against but when discussing with someone -one on one- how much good does that do once you've expressed what you believe on that topic?

Hear me out.  Nobody believes anything in a vacuum, every belief that we have is based off of other beliefs.  When you take all the underlying assumptions about reality and collect them together you get what is called a "worldview."  This is important because the worldview is what we need to be discussing, not the particular issues.  People hold their beliefs in the particulars because of their worldview, that is the point of contention.

Let me explain it another way.  Everything that anyone believes about all these particular issues (homosexuality, abortion, etc.) are really conclusions not starting points.  They have come to various conclusions on various topics because what they already believed consciously and subconsciously lead them to that conclusion.  We do the same thing, it's how thought works.  I believe in the Bible, I trust what God has said and understand His description of reality to be correct.  Because of that worldview I come to various conclusions, ie. that homosexuality is wrong, that abortion is murder, that gender and sex are the same thing and assigned to us at birth etc.  Now these conclusions make perfect logical sense to me, of course they do that's why I believe them; but person A doesn't share my worldview!  Person A doesn't hold to a Biblical standard in fact they likely hold to a pseudo-humanist post-modern evolutionary worldview which is going to lead them to wholly different conclusions!

Here is where this gets important.  Because I look at person A's conclusions from my worldview I judge his conclusions to be wrong but he is doing the exact same thing!  We will never agree until the worldviews match!  From their perspective, from their worldview it is me who is in the wrong and plainly so!  Here is where real meaningful debate can take place, when we move past the conclusions and discuss the beliefs that make up our individual worldviews and when we challenge why someone believes something.

We don't have to challenge gay marriage, we don't have to challenge abortion, we don't have to challenge any particular -any conclusion- when we challenge the worldview.  Once the worldview changes the conclusions necessarily change along with it.  It's like men of God have said for years and years now, if we lead men to God and let Him change their hearts than society's ills will mend right along with the souls of the people who make up society.

So think about why you argue, think about how you debate, think about how loving you are when you discuss these important topics.  Don't be distracted by the particulars, you will never convince somebody that your conclusions are correct as long as they are judging them based on their differing worldview.  Love others, show them what God has to say, and let Him change their hearts and minds.